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Hall of Fame Ballot Review 2010 – Conclusions


Well, over the last month and change, I have been reviewing many of the candidates for the Hall of Fame. You can find all of the posts in the sidebar to the left, but here’s the recap: Continue reading

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Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Edgar Martinez


Around this time last year, I went through and reviewed the case for a number of players for the Hall of Fame, and whether or not I thought that they deserved to be enshrined in the Hall. I’ll be doing this again this year, and for players I reviewed previously, I will revisit my vote and see if it has changed in a year’s time. Theoretically, this should remain the same, but there’s always a chance I am now a whole year wiser than I was last year. Today’s candidate is one that I looked at last year, Edgar Martinez

Martinez was eligible for the Hall for the first time in the 2010 class (2009), and you can find what I wrote last year below. He finished the voting last year with 195 votes out of a possible 539 ballots (36.2%). He seems likely to pick up more votes for this year’s election, but honestly I’d be pretty shocked if he came even remotely closer to 75% than he did last year. Continue reading

The Writers Vote in Dawson… and No One Else…


My very first reaction to the voting is this: What an unbelievable failure.

Congratulations to Dawson, a player who I definitely think believe they got right. As I wrote about here.

The full voting: (courtesy of the Baseball Hall of Fame’s website)

405 votes needed for election (out of 539) (along with my vote, not that it counts for much)

Dawson – 420 (77%) – YES
Blyleven – 400 (74.3%) – YES
Alomar – 397 (73.7%) – YES
Morris – 282 (52.3%) – NO
Larkin – 278 (51.6%) – NO
Martinez – 195 (36.2%) – YES
Raines – 164 (30.4%) – YES
McGwire – 128 (23.7%) – YES
McGriff – 116 (21.5%) – YES
Mattingly – 87 (16.1%)
Parker – 82 (15.2%)
Murphy – 63 (11.7%)
Baines – 33 (6.1%) – NO

The following are off the ballot going forward:
Galarraga – 22 (4.1%)
Ventura – 7 (1.3%)
Burks, Karros – 2 (0.4%)
Appier, Hentgen, Segui –  1 (0.2%)
Jackson, Lankford, Reynolds, Zeile – 0

I am really, really surprised that both Blyleven and Alomar got as close as they did, but didn’t make it in. I’m really left with 3 things from this voting:

  1. Who on earth voted for Eric Karros, Kevin Appier, Pat Hentgen, and David Segui?
  2. What are the odds of who is left from this year getting in to the Hall in the future?
  3. Why did 5 people think that no one was worthy of being in the Hall at all?

There seems to be a lot of commenting that there are some voters that think that there is a difference between first ballot hall of famers, and all other hall of famers. Last I checked, the rooms at the Hall of Fame are exactly the same regardless of whether you get in with your first chance or your 15th.

I am well aware that the voters are required to have been a member of the BBWAA for a minimum of 10 years to get a vote. And I am also well aware that quite a few of them either seem, or do take their votes extremely seriously. But it really seems to me that out of the 539, there are a few are either not taking them very seriously, or are looking for attention.

All in all, I think that the saddest part is that, as seems to be the norm for the voting at this point, the process is overshadowing the electees. We should be talking about how great Dawson was, and how deserving he is of this award. And yet, a majority of the stories written tomorrow will undoubtedly be about the facts related to the process of voting, and another call for changes will be made.

You can check out all of the players I reviewed for Hall of Fame consideration at the top of the page under the Hall of Fame Ballot Review 2009.

Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Summary


A recap of the Hall of Fame Ballot Review Series:

12/4: Jack Morris – NO
12/7: Mark McGwire – YES
12/9: Edgar Martinez – YES
12/11: Fred McGriff – YES
12/14: Harold Baines – NO
12/16: Barry Larkin – NO
12/18: Bert Blyleven – YES
12/21: Roberto Alomar – YES
12/23: Andre Dawson – YES
12/25: Tim Raines – NO [whoops] YES

Overall, it has been an interesting experiment in research. With the exception of Blyleven, all of these players careers finished during a time when I was really watching and following a lot of baseball. It was really interesting to me to see just how much the numbers tell you, and what my memory of them serves. I understand why they have the requirement that a writer must be a member of the BBWAA for at least 10 years prior to being allowed to vote.

Comments about my ballot, defenses as to why you think some of my NO votes should be YES votes? Definitely post it in the comments.

On New Year’s Day, I’ll be starting another series, this time reviewing a top prospect from each team’s minor league system. More information to follow about that.

Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Edgar Martinez


Player Profile on Baseball Reference.com

Notable Career Accomplishments
2247 hits
.312 batting average
.418 on base percentage
.515 slugging percentage
OPS+ of 147
7 All-Star Appearances
5 Silver Slugger Awards
6 100+ rbi seasons

The Case for Martinez

Martinez was 1 of the 2 dominant players at his position for the majority of his career. His career numbers all compare favorably on a year-to-year basis with other similar players (ie players who did not start playing full-time until age 27 or later). His career OPS+ tells me that he was an excellent player, with some elite years mixed in. He also had OPS+ seasons of 150 or greater 7 times.

The Case Against Martinez

Martinez was a full-time position player only until 1995, when knee injuries forced him to be a designated hitter full-time. He was never much of a homerun hitter, only finishing with more than 30 in a season once. Due to his injuries and late arrival to the majors, his career totals are not particularly impressive. Also, he was rarely, if ever, the best player on his team.

Analysis

Personally, I think that the argument that designated hitters should not be in the Hall of Fame is a load of crap. The rules of the game clearly consider the designated hitter to be an important position, not to mention a valid one.

So how do his career numbers stack up? He had 2247 hits and an excellent career line (.312/.418/.515). All three of these numbers point to prolonged excellence. His career OPS+ (147) tells me that he was an elite hitter and slugger. While I do think extra credit can be given to hitters who can also field, I don’t think fair to judge him as necessarily someone who cannot field.

Then we are left to look at how dominant a hitter he truly was. From 1995-2001, a span of 7 seasons, Martinez’ lowest OPS+ was 152, never hit below .306, had at least 23 homers and 86 rbi (driving in over 102 in the other 6 seasons), and slugging .543 or better every year. I would definitely consider that to be a dominant stretch, and coupled with his career numbers, leads me to believe he is a Hall of Famer.

MY VOTE: YES

Hall of Fame Eligible Players Review


I’m starting a new series today, and I’ll be going over the list of players on this year’s ballot for the Hall of Fame, and analyzing the ones who I believe have at least a reasonable chance of being inducted. The complete ballot can be viewed here.

Here’s the schedule:

12/4: Jack Morris
12/7: Mark McGwire
12/9: Edgar Martinez
12/11: Fred McGriff
12/14: Harold Baines
12/16: Barry Larkin
12/18: Bert Blyleven
12/21: Roberto Alomar
12/23: Andre Dawson
12/25: Tim Raines
12/28: My Hall of Fame Ballot