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Trade Retrospective: Jermaine Dye

On July 25th, 2001, the Royals traded Jermaine Dye to the Athletics as a part of a three team trade. In return, the Royals received SS Neifi Perez, and the Rockies received prospects Todd Belitz, Mario Encarnacion, and Jose Ortiz.

The Background

Dye had become yet another solid player that was developed by the Royals, and who would undoubtedly price himself out of Kansas City when he hit free agency. As a result, the Royals were listening to offers on the impending free agent.

The Athletics were 54-47 on July 25th when they acquired Dye, and were already playing for 2nd place and the Wild Card, as they were 18 games back of the Mariners. They had been running out all sorts of players in RF, but none of whom were playing particularly well.

The Rockies really seem to have been an afterthought, and only involved because the Royals appear to have wanted a Major League shortstop in return.

The Moving Pieces

In Oakland, Jermaine Dye was slotted in as the starting RF, with Johnny Damon and Terrence Long making up the rest of the outfield. They slotted him into the heart of the batting order.

In Kansas City, Neifi Perez was slotted in as the everyday SS.

In Colorado, Todd Belitz was put into the back of the bullpen, Mario Encarnacion was sent to the minors, and Jose Ortiz was slotted in as the starting 2B for the Major League team.

What Happened Next

All of the players who went to Kansas City and Colorado had a negligible effect on their teams fortunes, as none of them had anything particularly impressive. The Athletics, however, got exactly what they needed out of their new right fielder. In 61 games, Jermaine Dye hit .297/.366/.547 with 13 homeruns, 59 runs batted in, 41 runs scored and 2 stolen bases. He helped lead the team to a 102-60 record, which while being 14 games back of the division winning Mariners, was good enough to win the Wild Card. Unfortunately, the Athletics lost again to the Yankees in the first round, and were eliminated in a 3-2 series again.

The Net Moves

Athletics – First Level

  • Jermaine Dye spent from 2001-2004 with the Athletics (394 games), and posted an amazing 2.0 WAR in his half season of 2001 with the A’s. Unfortunately, after that was a bit inconsistent, as he posted WAR of 0.9, -2.0, and 1.6 before leaving. By the end, he had accumulated a .252/.326/.444 line with 64 HR, 245 RBI and 230 runs scored. He left via free agency after the 2004 season, and no compensation draft picks were earned by the A’s.

Royals – First Level

  • Neifi Perez spent the 2001-2002 seasons with the Royals, where he continued with the level of performance he had shown previously in his career. He hist .238/.264/.303 with 4 HR, 49 RBI, 11 SB and 83 runs during that time. After the 2002 season, he was claimed off of waivers by the San Francisco Giants.

Rockies – First Level

  • Todd Belitz spent a portion of the remainder of the 2001 season with the Major League club, posting a 1-1 record with a 7.71 ERA in 9 1/3 innings pitched. It’s not clear exactly what happened after that, other than the fact that he didn’t pitch in the Majors again.
  • Mario Encarnacion was only with the Rockies for the 2001 season, where he posted a .226/.284/.242 line with 3 RBI and 3 R in 20 games. He was claimed off of waivers after the season by the Chicago Cubs.
  • Jose Ortiz spent 2001-2002 with the Rockies, and showed a slight amount of potential. In 118 games, he hit .253/.314/.407 with 14 HR, 47 RBI, 5 SB and 60 runs scored. At last glance, it appears that he was out of baseball from 2002-2005, before returning to the Mexican League and Independent ball for parts of 4 seasons.

Overall Reactions

When I listed this trade, it was mostly because I had remembered when I had heard about it, and was extremely excited at the time. The fact that the players that were involved were essentially useless during their tenures in their respective cities (with the exception of Dye) makes this one a slam dunk for the A’s. Sadly, by the end of his tenure in Oakland, I can remember being pretty unhappy with the overall performance of Jermaine Dye, and was almost happy to see him go. I also thought that when I started looking into this trade, that there would be more levels and players that were affected by this trade than just the original players involved. Guess not.

Team Preview – Chicago White Sox

Roster Makeup
Lineup Pitching Staff
Pos Name Role Name
C A.J. Pierzynski SP 1 Mark Buehrle
1B Paul Konerko SP 2 Jake Peavy
2B Gordon Beckham SP 3 Gavin Floyd
3B Mark Teahen SP 4 John Danks
SS Alexei Ramirez SP 5 Freddy Garcia
LF Carlos Quentin Bullpen
CF Juan Pierre CL Bobby Jenks
RF Alex Rios RP J.J. Putz
DH Andruw Jones RP Scott Linebrink
Bench RP Matt Thornton
IF Omar Vizquel RP Tony Pena
OF Mark Kotsay RP Dan Hudson

Additional roster information can be found at MLB Depth Charts.

Off-Season Transactions
Key Additions Key Losses
Pos Name How Pos Name How
3B Mark Teahen Trade (KC) IF Josh Fields Trade (KC)
CF Juan Pierre Trade (LAD) IF Chris Getz Trade (KC)
RP J.J Putz Free Agency RF Jermaine Dye Free Agency

Top Prospects: Tyler Flowers (C), Dan Hudson (P), Dayan Viciedo (IF)

2009 Review

The White Sox seemed prime to repeat as division champs after their victory in 2008. However, they saw a regression in some key players, most notably RF Jermaine Dye and LF Carlos Quentin. The offense was led by 1B Paul Konerko (.277, 28 HR), OF Scott Podsednik (.304, 30 SB), and rookie 3B Gordon Beckham (.270, 14 HR). Beckham, fresh out of the 2008 draft class, skyrocketed through the White Sox system in less than a full year, and was considered to be a strong candidate for the AL Rookie of the Year as well. The pitching staff was anchored as usual by SP Mark Buehrle (13-10, 3.84), SP John Danks (13-11, 3.77) and SP Gavin Floyd (11-11, 4.06).

Perhaps the most notable events of the White Sox season involved transactions made by the front office. The Sox thought that they had acquired SP Jake Peavy in May for a package of prospects led by P Aaron Poreda, but Peavy invoked his no-trade clause, and remained in San Diego for the time being. Strangely, it was announced on July 31st that the White Sox had acquired Peavy, again for a package of prospects led by Poreda. The part that made this really strange was the fact that Peavy was still on the disabled list recovering from an ankle injury at the time. Peavy’s acquisition kept the White Sox hopeful that if they were close, they could make a late season run at the division crown. This was furthered by the White Sox making a claim on Blue Jays’ outfielder Alex Rios. The Sox knew that they could potentially be on the hook for the entirety of Rios’ contract (some 6 seasons and over $60 M), but felt that the risk for a player of Rios’ quality was worth it.

By the end of August, the White Sox had fallen to 4 games under .500, and 6 games back in the division. At this point, they moved DH Jim Thome in an effort to allow him a chance at a championship run. They failed in their efforts to move RF Jermaine Dye however, mostly due to his struggles at the plate (.189, 2 HR in August). The White Sox finished the season with a 79-83 record, and 7.5 games out of first place.

Team Outlook for 2010

The White Sox went out and made some roster moves that have the potential to improve the team quite a bit from last year. They will look to get full, healthy seasons out of LF Carlos Quentin and SP Jake Peavy. They are hoping for improvements at 2B and CF with Gordon Beckham and Juan Pierre now manning those positions full time. And they are hopeful that the bullpen will be even more improved with the addition of J.J. Putz.

I am not sold that the 2010 version of the White Sox is drastically improved over the 2009 version. Having Peavy for a full season will definitely be an improvement, but I’m not sold that the additions of Mark Teahen, Juan Pierre, and Andruw Jones are substantial improvements over Chris Getz, Scott Podsednik, or Jim Thome. I think that in comparison to the other contenders in their division (Detroit, Minnesota), they simply haven’t improved enough to make a great run for the postseason. I think they’ll do better than the Tigers, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it ended in the opposite order. And it would take quite a bit of luck for them to catch Minnesota.

Fantasy Outlook for 2010

3B/2B Gordon Beckham, SS Alexei Ramirez, and 1B Paul Konerko are probably the best players on offense for the White Sox in terms of fantasy production. RP Bobby Jenks is always going to have value as long as he holds the closer’s role, but watch for either J.J. Putz or Matt Thornton to get a shot if Jenks struggles early on. Jake Peavy is the class of the starting rotation, but he comes with that wonderful risk of injury as well. Buehrle, Floyd, and Danks all can be useful starting pitchers, but I wouldn’t want to have to rely too heavily on them to be near the top of your fantasy rotation.

Prediction for 2010

The White Sox appear to be trying to make another run this season, before some of their better players (Konerko, Pierzynski, Buehrle) get too old to be useful. However, I don’t believe that the moves that they have made will put them over the top in the AL Central.

84-78, 2nd in the AL Central

Free Agency Review – OF/DH

Continuing on with my review of the 2010 free agent class, today’s positions are the outfielders and designated hitters.

All salary data from ESPN.com’s Free Agent Tracker
All 2011 free agent information from MLB Trade Rumors’ 2011 Free Agent List

Corner Outfielders
Name Old New Years Total $
Jason Bay BOS NYM 4 $66 M
Matt Holliday STL STL 7 $120 M
Xavier Nady NYY CHC 1 $3.3 M
Randy Winn SF NYY 1 $1.1 M
Marlon Byrd TEX CHC 3 $15 M
Bobby Abreu LAA LAA 2 $19 M

Notable Remaining Free Agents: Johnny Damon (NYY), Jermaine Dye (CHW)

What an unusual offseason. Holliday gets $120 M from the Cardinals, despite appearing to have no other offers even remotely as large or as long. Bay takes about $6 M more than the Red Sox offered, and goes to a park which I have to imagine is not going to be as good for him as a hitter as Fenway was. And then there is the case of Johnny Damon. As of this writing, Damon is STILL unsigned. He was looking for a very large contract, with 3-4 years in length and a large quantity of money. After the season he had last year, he appears to have been well within his rights to ask for it, too. Unfortunately, no one’s willing to pay it. Which makes the contract that Bobby Abreu signed with the Angels look that much better.

Center Fielders
Name Old New Years Total $
Rick Ankiel STL KC 1 $3.25 M
Scott Podsednik CHW KCR 1 $1.75 M
Coco Crisp KCR OAK 1 $5.25 M
Mike Cameron MIL BOS 2 $15.5 M

Notable Remaining Free Agents: None

Center fielders did alright this offseason, with Mike Cameron receiving the best contract overall. He’s going to be playing LF for the Red Sox most likely, although they’d probably be better served moving Jacoby Ellsbury instead. Crisp was added to the A’s outfield in spite of the logjam that was there when the offseason started, and the move makes a lot more sense now that they were able to move a couple of their excess outfielders. Both Podsednik and Ankiel aren’t going to play CF for the Royals, but I could see them splitting their time out there, and potentially in RF in place of Jose Guillen as well.

Designated Hitters
Name Old New Years Total $
Jim Thome LAD MIN 1 $1.5 M
Vladimir Guerrero LAA TEX 1 $5 M
Hideki Matsui NYY LAA 1 $6.5 M

Notable Remaining Free Agents: None

Not surprisingly, there were not a lot of designated hitters available, and jobs for them either. Matsui did well to take Guerrero’s old job, and get a nice salary for 2010. I really like the signing for the Angels, as Matsui is the definition of a professional hitter. Should fit in well with the rest of the lineup and the roster. Guerrero could very well have an excellent season in Texas, although I think Texas probably would have been better served using that money for other spots on the roster besides a player who cannot play the field any longer. Thome’s signing was under the radar, and also fits really well with his new team. He brings a professionalism and veteran leadership to the Twins that they don’t have a lot of at the moment.

Tomorrow’s free agency review: Starting Pitchers

Some Other Moves from Last Week

Now that the World Series is over, we will start seeing a flurry of transactions in the coming days. Last week was no exception. I’ve already discussed the J.J. Hardy-Carlos Gomez trade, but wanted to make mention of some of the other moves completed last week.

Philadelphia exercised Cliff Lee’s 2010 option. No surprise here. Cliff pitched amazingly down the stretch for the Phillies. Now they need to start working on a contract extension and keep him there even longer.
Manny Ramirez will return to the Dodgers on his exercised option. Also not a huge surprise to me here. Manny likes it in Los Angeles, and probably knew that he would never get $20 million on the open market this season.
Brandon Webb had his 2010 option exercised as well. Based on how much the buyout was ($2 M), it wasn’t a huge surprise that it was picked up. Well worth the risk in my opinion.
Jermaine Dye had his option for 2010 bought out, and became a free agent. He’ll catch on somewhere, as he is still a productive outfielder. Just not at the price of his 2010 option.