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Hall of Fame Ballot Review 2010 – Conclusions


Well, over the last month and change, I have been reviewing many of the candidates for the Hall of Fame. You can find all of the posts in the sidebar to the left, but here’s the recap: Continue reading

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Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Tim Raines


Tim Raines was on the ballot for the 3rd time last year, and was a candidate I reviewed last year. Raines received 30.4% of the vote last year, his best showing yet. You can read my thoughts from last year below, along with my thoughts regarding Rock Raines this year.

Baseball Reference.Com Profile

Career Accomplishments
808 steals
.294/.385/.425
OPS+ of 123
2605 hits
7 All-Star Appearances
6 100 run seasons
11 40 steal seasons
7 130 OPS+ seasons

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The Writers Vote in Dawson… and No One Else…


My very first reaction to the voting is this: What an unbelievable failure.

Congratulations to Dawson, a player who I definitely think believe they got right. As I wrote about here.

The full voting: (courtesy of the Baseball Hall of Fame’s website)

405 votes needed for election (out of 539) (along with my vote, not that it counts for much)

Dawson – 420 (77%) – YES
Blyleven – 400 (74.3%) – YES
Alomar – 397 (73.7%) – YES
Morris – 282 (52.3%) – NO
Larkin – 278 (51.6%) – NO
Martinez – 195 (36.2%) – YES
Raines – 164 (30.4%) – YES
McGwire – 128 (23.7%) – YES
McGriff – 116 (21.5%) – YES
Mattingly – 87 (16.1%)
Parker – 82 (15.2%)
Murphy – 63 (11.7%)
Baines – 33 (6.1%) – NO

The following are off the ballot going forward:
Galarraga – 22 (4.1%)
Ventura – 7 (1.3%)
Burks, Karros – 2 (0.4%)
Appier, Hentgen, Segui –  1 (0.2%)
Jackson, Lankford, Reynolds, Zeile – 0

I am really, really surprised that both Blyleven and Alomar got as close as they did, but didn’t make it in. I’m really left with 3 things from this voting:

  1. Who on earth voted for Eric Karros, Kevin Appier, Pat Hentgen, and David Segui?
  2. What are the odds of who is left from this year getting in to the Hall in the future?
  3. Why did 5 people think that no one was worthy of being in the Hall at all?

There seems to be a lot of commenting that there are some voters that think that there is a difference between first ballot hall of famers, and all other hall of famers. Last I checked, the rooms at the Hall of Fame are exactly the same regardless of whether you get in with your first chance or your 15th.

I am well aware that the voters are required to have been a member of the BBWAA for a minimum of 10 years to get a vote. And I am also well aware that quite a few of them either seem, or do take their votes extremely seriously. But it really seems to me that out of the 539, there are a few are either not taking them very seriously, or are looking for attention.

All in all, I think that the saddest part is that, as seems to be the norm for the voting at this point, the process is overshadowing the electees. We should be talking about how great Dawson was, and how deserving he is of this award. And yet, a majority of the stories written tomorrow will undoubtedly be about the facts related to the process of voting, and another call for changes will be made.

You can check out all of the players I reviewed for Hall of Fame consideration at the top of the page under the Hall of Fame Ballot Review 2009.

Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Summary


A recap of the Hall of Fame Ballot Review Series:

12/4: Jack Morris – NO
12/7: Mark McGwire – YES
12/9: Edgar Martinez – YES
12/11: Fred McGriff – YES
12/14: Harold Baines – NO
12/16: Barry Larkin – NO
12/18: Bert Blyleven – YES
12/21: Roberto Alomar – YES
12/23: Andre Dawson – YES
12/25: Tim Raines – NO [whoops] YES

Overall, it has been an interesting experiment in research. With the exception of Blyleven, all of these players careers finished during a time when I was really watching and following a lot of baseball. It was really interesting to me to see just how much the numbers tell you, and what my memory of them serves. I understand why they have the requirement that a writer must be a member of the BBWAA for at least 10 years prior to being allowed to vote.

Comments about my ballot, defenses as to why you think some of my NO votes should be YES votes? Definitely post it in the comments.

On New Year’s Day, I’ll be starting another series, this time reviewing a top prospect from each team’s minor league system. More information to follow about that.

Hall of Fame Ballot Review – Tim Raines


Baseball Reference.Com Profile

Career Accomplishments
808 steals
.294/.385/.425
OPS+ of 123
2605 hits
7 All-Star Appearances
6 100 run seasons
11 40 steal seasons
7 130 OPS+ seasons

The Case for Raines
Raines is currently 5th all-time with 808 stolen bases. He won 2 World Championships (1996, 1998), and made 7 All-Star Appearances. He scored 100 runs 6 times, stole 70 bases 7 seasons in a row, and hit .300 6 times.

The Case Against Raines
Raines was essentially a part-time player from 1996 onward, and really started fading in 1993. It is hard to see how he got to 2605 hits without a 200 hit season. His speed faded fast, and his hitting does not appear to have recovered from the missing speed.

Analysis
That career steal number really stands out to me. I consider the fact that he finished his career 5th all time in such a major statistic to be extremely impressive. All 4 players who finished in front of him are all in the Hall of Fame. Raines’ role was always to be a table-setter, and it shows in his fairly low career slugging percentage. It really concerns me that he dropped off so precipitously after the 1993 season. After 1993, he never played more than 133 games or stole more than 21 bases, and only had one season with at least 500 at bats. That encompasses a period of almost 10 seasons, nearly half of his career.

So what do the season-to-season numbers tell us? From 1981-1987 he was an extremely dominant player. During that time he:

  • stole 70 bases or more each season
  • led the league in steals 4 times
  • hit .300 or better 5 times
  • scored 100 runs 4 times (led the league twice)
  • had an OPS+ of 129 or better 6 times
  • posted an on-base percentage of .390 or better 6 times
  • went to all 7 All-Star games

Simply put, he was one of the most dominant lead off hitters during this period. I am really torn on whether or not he deserves induction. The fact that his career seems to have tailed off so fast worries me. However, the fact that he was able to embrace these roles, and still provide some solid production leads me to believe that he is a Hall of Famer.

MY VOTE: YES

Hall of Fame Eligible Players Review


I’m starting a new series today, and I’ll be going over the list of players on this year’s ballot for the Hall of Fame, and analyzing the ones who I believe have at least a reasonable chance of being inducted. The complete ballot can be viewed here.

Here’s the schedule:

12/4: Jack Morris
12/7: Mark McGwire
12/9: Edgar Martinez
12/11: Fred McGriff
12/14: Harold Baines
12/16: Barry Larkin
12/18: Bert Blyleven
12/21: Roberto Alomar
12/23: Andre Dawson
12/25: Tim Raines
12/28: My Hall of Fame Ballot